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Timaeus
By Plato
Written 360 B.C.E
Translated by Benjamin Jowett
Persons of the Dialogue
SOCRATES
CRITIAS
TIMAEUS
HERMOCRATES
Crit. Many great and wonderful deeds are recorded of your state in our
histories. But one of them exceeds all the rest in greatness and valour.
For these histories tell of a mighty power which unprovoked made an
expedition against the whole of Europe and Asia, and to which your city
put an end. This power came forth out of the Atlantic Ocean, for in
those days the Atlantic was navigable; and there was an island situated
in front of the straits which are by you called the Pillars of Heracles;
the island was larger than Libya and Asia put together, and was the way
to other islands, and from these you might pass to the whole of the
opposite continent which surrounded the true ocean; for this sea which
is within the Straits of Heracles is only a harbour, having a narrow
entrance, but that other is a real sea, and the surrounding land may be
most truly called a boundless continent. Now in this island of Atlantis
there was a great and wonderful empire which had rule over the whole
island and several others, and over parts of the continent, and,
furthermore, the men of Atlantis had subjected the parts of Libya within
the columns of Heracles as far as Egypt, and of Europe as far as
Tyrrhenia. This vast power, gathered into one, endeavoured to subdue at
a blow our country and yours and the whole of the region within the
straits; and then, Solon, your country shone forth, in the excellence of
her virtue and strength, among all mankind. She was pre-eminent in
courage and military skill, and was the leader of the Hellenes. And when
the rest fell off from her, being compelled to stand alone, after having
undergone the very extremity of danger, she defeated and triumphed over
the invaders, and preserved from slavery those who were not yet
subjugated, and generously liberated all the rest of us who dwell within
the pillars. But afterwards there occurred violent earthquakes and
floods; and in a single day and night of misfortune all your warlike men
in a body sank into the earth, and the island of Atlantis in like manner
disappeared in the depths of the sea. For which reason the sea in those
parts is impassable and impenetrable, because there is a shoal of mud in
the way; and this was caused by the subsidence of the island.
I have told you briefly, Socrates, what the aged Critias heard from
Solon and related to us. And when you were speaking yesterday about your
city and citizens, the tale which I have just been repeating to you came
into my mind, and I remarked with astonishment how, by some mysterious
coincidence, you agreed in almost every particular with the narrative of
Solon; but I did not like to speak at the moment. For a long time had
elapsed, and I had forgotten too much; I thought that I must first of
all run over the narrative in my own mind, and then I would speak. And
so I readily assented to your request yesterday, considering that in all
such cases the chief difficulty is to find a tale suitable to our
purpose, and that with such a tale we should be fairly well provided.
And therefore, as Hermocrates has told you, on my way home yesterday I
at once communicated the tale to my companions as I remembered it; and
after I left them, during the night by thinking I recovered nearly the
whole it. Truly, as is often said, the lessons of our childhood make
wonderful impression on our memories; for I am not sure that I could
remember all the discourse of yesterday, but I should be much surprised
if I forgot any of these things which I have heard very long ago. I
listened at the time with childlike interest to the old man's narrative;
he was very ready to teach me, and I asked him again and again to repeat
his words, so that like an indelible picture they were branded into my
mind. As soon as the day broke, I rehearsed them as he spoke them to my
companions, that they, as well as myself, might have something to say.
And now, Socrates, to make an end my preface, I am ready to tell you the
whole tale. I will give you not only the general heads, but the
particulars, as they were told to me. The city and citizens, which you
yesterday described to us in fiction, we will now transfer to the world
of reality. It shall be the ancient city of Athens, and we will suppose
that the citizens whom you imagined, were our veritable ancestors, of
whom the priest spoke; they will perfectly harmonise, and there will be
no inconsistency in saying that the citizens of your republic are these
ancient Athenians. Let us divide the subject among us, and all endeavour
according to our ability gracefully to execute the task which you have
imposed upon us. Consider then, Socrates, if this narrative is suited to
the purpose, or whether we should seek for some other instead.
Soc. And what other, Critias, can we find that will be better than this,
which is natural and suitable to the festival of the goddess, and has
the very great advantage of being a fact and not a fiction? How or where
shall we find another if we abandon this? We cannot, and therefore you
must tell the tale, and good luck to you; and I in return for my
yesterday's discourse will now rest and be a listener.
Crit. Let me proceed to explain to you, Socrates, the order in which we
have arranged our entertainment. Our intention is, that Timaeus, who is
the most of an astronomer amongst us, and has made the nature of the
universe his special study, should speak first, beginning with the
generation of the world and going down to the creation of man; next, I
am to receive the men whom he has created of whom some will have
profited by the excellent education which you have given them; and then,
in accordance with the tale of Solon, and equally with his law, we will
bring them into court and make them citizens, as if they were those very
Athenians whom the sacred Egyptian record has recovered from oblivion,
and thenceforward we will speak of them as Athenians and
fellow-citizens.
Soc. I see that I shall receive in my turn a perfect and splendid feast
of reason. And now, Timaeus, you, I suppose, should speak next, after
duly calling upon the Gods.
Tim. All men, Socrates, who have any degree of right feeling, at the
beginning of every enterprise, whether small or great, always call upon
God. And we, too, who are going to discourse of the nature of the
universe, how created or how existing without creation, if we be not
altogether out of our wits, must invoke the aid of Gods and Goddesses
and pray that our words may be acceptable to them and consistent with
themselves. Let this, then, be our invocation of the Gods, to which I
add an exhortation of myself to speak in such manner as will be most
intelligible to you, and will most accord with my own intent.
First then, in my judgment, we must make a distinction and ask, What is
that which always is and has no becoming; and what is that which is
always becoming and never is? That which is apprehended by intelligence
and reason is always in the same state; but that which is conceived by
opinion with the help of sensation and without reason, is always in a
process of becoming and perishing and never really is. Now everything
that becomes or is created must of necessity be created by some cause,
for without a cause nothing can be created. The work of the creator,
whenever he looks to the unchangeable and fashions the form and nature
of his work after an unchangeable pattern, must necessarily be made fair
and perfect; but when he looks to the created only, and uses a created
pattern, it is not fair or perfect. Was the heaven then or the world,
whether called by this or by any other more appropriate name-assuming
the name, I am asking a question which has to be asked at the beginning
of an enquiry about anything-was the world, I say, always in existence
and without beginning? or created, and had it a beginning? Created, I
reply, being visible and tangible and having a body, and therefore
sensible; and all sensible things are apprehended by opinion and sense
and are in a process of creation and created. Now that which is created
must, as we affirm, of necessity be created by a cause. But the father
and maker of all this universe is past finding out; and even if we found
him, to tell of him to all men would be impossible. And there is still a
question to be asked about him: Which of the patterns had the artificer
in view when he made the world-the pattern of the unchangeable, or of
that which is created? If the world be indeed fair and the artificer
good, it is manifest that he must have looked to that which is eternal;
but if what cannot be said without blasphemy is true, then to the
created pattern. Every one will see that he must have looked to, the
eternal; for the world is the fairest of creations and he is the best of
causes. And having been created in this way, the world has been framed
in the likeness of that which is apprehended by reason and mind and is
unchangeable, and must therefore of necessity, if this is admitted, be a
copy of something. Now it is all-important that the beginning of
everything should be according to nature. And in speaking of the copy
and the original we may assume that words are akin to the matter which
they describe; when they relate to the lasting and permanent and
intelligible, they ought to be lasting and unalterable, and, as far as
their nature allows, irrefutable and immovable-nothing less. But when
they express only the copy or likeness and not the eternal things
themselves, they need only be likely and analogous to the real words. As
being is to becoming, so is truth to belief. If then, Socrates, amid the
many opinions about the gods and the generation of the universe, we are
not able to give notions which are altogether and in every respect exact
and consistent with one another, do not be surprised. Enough, if we
adduce probabilities as likely as any others; for we must remember that
I who am the speaker, and you who are the judges, are only mortal men,
and we ought to accept the tale which is probable and enquire no
further.
Soc. Excellent, Timaeus; and we will do precisely as you bid us. The
prelude is charming, and is already accepted by us-may we beg of you to
proceed to the strain?
Tim. Let me tell you then why the creator made this world of generation.
He was good, and the good can never have any jealousy of anything. And
being free from jealousy, he desired that all things should be as like
himself as they could be. This is in the truest sense the origin of
creation and of the world, as we shall do well in believing on the
testimony of wise men: God desired that all things should be good and
nothing bad, so far as this was attainable. Wherefore also finding the
whole visible sphere not at rest, but moving in an irregular and
disorderly fashion, out of disorder he brought order, considering that
this was in every way better than the other. Now the deeds of the best
could never be or have been other than the fairest; and the creator,
reflecting on the things which are by nature visible, found that no
unintelligent creature taken as a whole was fairer than the intelligent
taken as a whole; and that intelligence could not be present in anything
which was devoid of soul. For which reason, when he was framing the
universe, he put intelligence in soul, and soul in body, that he might
be the creator of a work which was by nature fairest and best.
Wherefore, using the language of probability, we may say that the world
became a living creature truly endowed with soul and intelligence by the
providence of God.
This being supposed, let us proceed to the next stage: In the likeness
of what animal did the Creator make the world? It would be an unworthy
thing to liken it to any nature which exists as a part only; for nothing
can be beautiful which is like any imperfect thing; but let us suppose
the world to be the very image of that whole of which all other animals
both individually and in their tribes are portions. For the original of
the universe contains in itself all intelligible beings, just as this
world comprehends us and all other visible creatures. For the Deity,
intending to make this world like the fairest and most perfect of
intelligible beings, framed one visible animal comprehending within
itself all other animals of a kindred nature. Are we right in saying
that there is one world, or that they are many and infinite? There must
be one only, if the created copy is to accord with the original. For
that which includes all other intelligible creatures cannot have a
second or companion; in that case there would be need of another living
being which would include both, and of which they would be parts, and
the likeness would be more truly said to resemble not them, but that
other which included them. In order then that the world might be
solitary, like the perfect animal, the creator made not two worlds or an
infinite number of them; but there is and ever will be one only-begotten
and created heaven.
Now that which is created is of necessity corporeal, and also visible
and tangible. And nothing is visible where there is no fire, or tangible
which has no solidity, and nothing is solid without earth. Wherefore
also God in the beginning of creation made the body of the universe to
consist of fire and earth. But two things cannot be rightly put together
without a third; there must be some bond of union between them. And the
fairest bond is that which makes the most complete fusion of itself and
the things which it combines; and proportion is best adapted to effect
such a union. For whenever in any three numbers, whether cube or square,
there is a mean, which is to the last term what the first term is to it;
and again, when the mean is to the first term as the last term is to the
mean-then the mean becoming first and last, and the first and last both
becoming means, they will all of them of necessity come to be the same,
and having become the same with one another will be all one. If the
universal frame had been created a surface only and having no depth, a
single mean would have sufficed to bind together itself and the other
terms; but now, as the world must be solid, and solid bodies are always
compacted not by one mean but by two, God placed water and air in the
mean between fire and earth, and made them to have the same proportion
so far as was possible (as fire is to air so is air to water, and as air
is to water so is water to earth); and thus he bound and put together a
visible and tangible heaven. And for these reasons, and out of such
elements which are in number four, the body of the world was created,
and it was harmonised by proportion, and therefore has the spirit of
friendship; and having been reconciled to itself, it was indissoluble by
the hand of any other than the framer.
Now the creation took up the whole of each of the four elements; for the
Creator compounded the world out of all the fire and all the water and
all the air and all the earth, leaving no part of any of them nor any
power of them outside. His intention was, in the first place, that the
animal should be as far as possible a perfect whole and of perfect
parts: secondly, that it should be one, leaving no remnants out of which
another such world might be created: and also that it should be free
from old age and unaffected by disease. Considering that if heat and
cold and other powerful forces which unite bodies surround and attack
them from without when they are unprepared, they decompose them, and by
bringing diseases and old age upon them, make them waste away-for this
cause and on these grounds he made the world one whole, having every
part entire, and being therefore perfect and not liable to old age and
disease. And he gave to the world the figure which was suitable and also
natural. Now to the animal which was to comprehend all animals, that
figure was suitable which comprehends within itself all other figures.
Wherefore he made the world in the form of a globe, round as from a
lathe, having its extremes in every direction equidistant from the
centre, the most perfect and the most like itself of all figures; for he
considered that the like is infinitely fairer than the unlike. This he
finished off, making the surface smooth all around for many reasons; in
the first place, because the living being had no need of eyes when there
was nothing remaining outside him to be seen; nor of ears when there was
nothing to be heard; and there was no surrounding atmosphere to be
breathed; nor would there have been any use of organs by the help of
which he might receive his food or get rid of what he had already
digested, since there was nothing which went from him or came into him:
for there was nothing beside him. Of design he was created thus, his own
waste providing his own food, and all that he did or suffered taking
place in and by himself. For the Creator conceived that a being which
was self-sufficient would be far more excellent than one which lacked
anything; and, as he had no need to take anything or defend himself
against any one, the Creator did not think it necessary to bestow upon
him hands: nor had he any need of feet, nor of the whole apparatus of
walking; but the movement suited to his spherical form was assigned to
him, being of all the seven that which is most appropriate to mind and
intelligence; and he was made to move in the same manner and on the same
spot, within his own limits revolving in a circle. All the other six
motions were taken away from him, and he was made not to partake of
their deviations. And as this circular movement required no feet, the
universe was created without legs and without feet.
Such was the whole plan of the eternal God about the god that was to be,
to whom for this reason he gave a body, smooth and even, having a
surface in every direction equidistant from the centre, a body entire
and perfect, and formed out of perfect bodies. And in the centre he put
the soul, which he diffused throughout the body, making it also to be
the exterior environment of it; and he made the universe a circle moving
in a circle, one and solitary, yet by reason of its excellence able to
converse with itself, and needing no other friendship or acquaintance.
Having these purposes in view he created the world a blessed god.
Now God did not make the soul after the body, although we are speaking
of them in this order; for having brought them together he would never
have allowed that the elder should be ruled by the younger; but this is
a random manner of speaking which we have, because somehow we ourselves
too are very much under the dominion of chance. Whereas he made the soul
in origin and excellence prior to and older than the body, to be the
ruler and mistress, of whom the body was to be the subject. And he made
her out of the following elements and on this wise: Out of the
indivisible and unchangeable, and also out of that which is divisible
and has to do with material bodies, he compounded a third and
intermediate kind of essence, partaking of the nature of the same and of
the other, and this compound he placed accordingly in a mean between the
indivisible, and the divisible and material. He took the three elements
of the same, the other, and the essence, and mingled them into one form,
compressing by force the reluctant and unsociable nature of the other
into the same. When he had mingled them with the essence and out of
three made one, he again divided this whole into as many portions as was
fitting, each portion being a compound of the same, the other, and the
essence. And he proceeded to divide after this manner:-First of all, he
took away one part of the whole [1], and then he separated a second part
which was double the first [2], and then he took away a third part which
was half as much again as the second and three times as much as the
first [3], and then he took a fourth part which was twice as much as the
second [4], and a fifth part which was three times the third [9], and a
sixth part which was eight times the first [8], and a seventh part which
was twenty-seven times the first [27]. After this he filled up the
double intervals [i.e. between 1, 2, 4, 8] and the triple [i.e. between
1, 3, 9, 27] cutting off yet other portions from the mixture and placing
them in the intervals, so that in each interval there were two kinds of
means, the one exceeding and exceeded by equal parts of its extremes [as
for example 1, 4/3, 2, in which the mean 4/3 is one-third of 1 more than
1, and one-third of 2 less than 2], the other being that kind of mean
which exceeds and is exceeded by an equal number. Where there were
intervals of 3/2 and of 4/3 and of 9/8, made by the connecting terms in
the former intervals, he filled up all the intervals of 4/3 with the
interval of 9/8, leaving a fraction over; and the interval which this
fraction expressed was in the ratio of 256 to 243. And thus the whole
mixture out of which he cut these portions was all exhausted by him.
This entire compound he divided lengthways into two parts, which he
joined to one another at the centre like the letter X, and bent them
into a circular form, connecting them with themselves and each other at
the point opposite to their original meeting-point; and, comprehending
them in a uniform revolution upon the same axis, he made the one the
outer and the other the inner circle. Now the motion of the outer circle
he called the motion of the same, and the motion of the inner circle the
motion of the other or diverse. The motion of the same he carried round
by the side to the right, and the motion of the diverse diagonally to
the left. And he gave dominion to the motion of the same and like, for
that he left single and undivided; but the inner motion he divided in
six places and made seven unequal circles having their intervals in
ratios of two-and three, three of each, and bade the orbits proceed in a
direction opposite to one another; and three [Sun, Mercury, Venus] he
made to move with equal swiftness, and the remaining four [Moon, Saturn,
Mars, Jupiter] to move with unequal swiftness to the three and to one
another, but in due proportion.
Now when the Creator had framed the soul according to his will, he
formed within her the corporeal universe, and brought the two together,
and united them centre to centre. The soul, interfused everywhere from
the centre to the circumference of heaven, of which also she is the
external envelopment, herself turning in herself, began a divine
beginning of never ceasing and rational life enduring throughout all
time. The body of heaven is visible, but the soul is invisible, and
partakes of reason and harmony, and being made by the best of
intellectual and everlasting natures, is the best of things created. And
because she is composed of the same and of the other and of the essence,
these three, and is divided and united in due proportion, and in her
revolutions returns upon herself, the soul, when touching anything which
has essence, whether dispersed in parts or undivided, is stirred through
all her powers, to declare the sameness or difference of that thing and
some other; and to what individuals are related, and by what affected,
and in what way and how and when, both in the world of generation and in
the world of immutable being. And when reason, which works with equal
truth, whether she be in the circle of the diverse or of the same-in
voiceless silence holding her onward course in the sphere of the
self-moved-when reason, I say, is hovering around the sensible world and
when the circle of the diverse also moving truly imparts the intimations
of sense to the whole soul, then arise opinions and beliefs sure and
certain. But when reason is concerned with the rational, and the circle
of the same moving smoothly declares it, then intelligence and knowledge
are necessarily perfected. And if any one affirms that in which these
two are found to be other than the soul, he will say the very opposite
of the truth.
When the father creator saw the creature which he had made moving and
living, the created image of the eternal gods, he rejoiced, and in his
joy determined to make the copy still more like the original; and as
this was eternal, he sought to make the universe eternal, so far as
might be. Now the nature of the ideal being was everlasting, but to
bestow this attribute in its fulness upon a creature was impossible.
Wherefore he resolved to have a moving image of eternity, and when he
set in order the heaven, he made this image eternal but moving according
to number, while eternity itself rests in unity; and this image we call
time. For there were no days and nights and months and years before the
heaven was created, but when he constructed the heaven he created them
also. They are all parts of time, and the past and future are created
species of time, which we unconsciously but wrongly transfer to the
eternal essence; for we say that he "was," he "is," he "will be," but
the truth is that "is" alone is properly attributed to him, and that
"was" and "will be" only to be spoken of becoming in time, for they are
motions, but that which is immovably the same cannot become older or
younger by time, nor ever did or has become, or hereafter will be, older
or younger, nor is subject at all to any of those states which affect
moving and sensible things and of which generation is the cause. These
are the forms of time, which imitates eternity and revolves according to
a law of number. Moreover, when we say that what has become is become
and what becomes is becoming, and that what will become is about to
become and that the non-existent is non-existent-all these are
inaccurate modes of expression. But perhaps this whole subject will be
more suitably discussed on some other occasion.
Time, then, and the heaven came into being at the same instant in order
that, having been created together, if ever there was to be a
dissolution of them, they might be dissolved together. It was framed
after the pattern of the eternal nature, that it might resemble this as
far as was possible; for the pattern exists from eternity, and the
created heaven has been, and is, and will be, in all time. Such was the
mind and thought of God in the creation of time. The sun and moon and
five other stars, which are called the planets, were created by him in
order to distinguish and preserve the numbers of time; and when he had
made-their several bodies, he placed them in the orbits in which the
circle of the other was revolving-in seven orbits seven stars. First,
there was the moon in the orbit nearest the earth, and next the sun, in
the second orbit above the earth; then came the morning star and the
star sacred to Hermes, moving in orbits which have an equal swiftness
with the sun, but in an opposite direction; and this is the reason why
the sun and Hermes and Lucifer overtake and are overtaken by each other.
To enumerate the places which he assigned to the other stars, and to
give all the reasons why he assigned them, although a secondary matter,
would give more trouble than the primary. These things at some future
time, when we are at leisure, may have the consideration which they
deserve, but not at present.
Now, when all the stars which were necessary to the creation of time had
attained a motion suitable to them,-and had become living creatures
having bodies fastened by vital chains, and learnt their appointed task,
moving in the motion of the diverse, which is diagonal, and passes
through and is governed by the motion of the same, they revolved, some
in a larger and some in a lesser orbit-those which had the lesser orbit
revolving faster, and those which had the larger more slowly. Now by
reason of the motion of the same, those which revolved fastest appeared
to be overtaken by those which moved slower although they really
overtook them; for the motion of the same made them all turn in a
spiral, and, because some went one way and some another, that which
receded most slowly from the sphere of the same, which was the swiftest,
appeared to follow it most nearly. That there might be some visible
measure of their relative swiftness and slowness as they proceeded in
their eight courses, God lighted a fire, which we now call the sun, in
the second from the earth of these orbits, that it might give light to
the whole of heaven, and that the animals, as many as nature intended,
might participate in number, learning arithmetic from the revolution of
the same and the like. Thus then, and for this reason the night and the
day were created, being the period of the one most intelligent
revolution. And the month is accomplished when the moon has completed
her orbit and overtaken the sun, and the year when the sun has completed
his own orbit. Mankind, with hardly an exception, have not remarked the
periods of the other stars, and they have no name for them, and do not
measure them against one another by the help of number, and hence they
can scarcely be said to know that their wanderings, being infinite in
number and admirable for their variety, make up time. And yet there is
no difficulty in seeing that the perfect number of time fulfils the
perfect year when all the eight revolutions, having their relative
degrees of swiftness, are accomplished together and attain their
completion at the same time, measured by the rotation of the same and
equally moving. After this manner, and for these reasons, came into
being such of the stars as in their heavenly progress received reversals
of motion, to the end that the created heaven might imitate the eternal
nature, and be as like as possible to the perfect and intelligible
animal.
Thus far and until the birth of time the created universe was made in
the likeness of the original, but inasmuch as all animals were not yet
comprehended therein, it was still unlike. What remained, the creator
then proceeded to fashion after the nature of the pattern. Now as in the
ideal animal the mind perceives ideas or species of a certain nature and
number, he thought that this created animal ought to have species of a
like nature and number. There are four such; one of them is the heavenly
race of the gods; another, the race of birds whose way is in the air;
the third, the watery species; and the fourth, the pedestrian and land
creatures. Of the heavenly and divine, he created the greater part out
of fire, that they might be the brightest of all things and fairest to
behold, and he fashioned them after the likeness of the universe in the
figure of a circle, and made them follow the intelligent motion of the
supreme, distributing them over the whole circumference of heaven, which
was to be a true cosmos or glorious world spangled with them all over.
And he gave to each of them two movements: the first, a movement on the
same spot after the same manner, whereby they ever continue to think
consistently the same thoughts about the same things; the second, a
forward movement, in which they are controlled by the revolution of the
same and the like; but by the other five motions they were unaffected,
in order that each of them might attain the highest perfection. And for
this reason the fixed stars were created, to be divine and eternal
animals, ever-abiding and revolving after the same manner and on the
same spot; and the other stars which reverse their motion and are
subject to deviations of this kind, were created in the manner already
described. The earth, which is our nurse, clinging around the pole which
is extended through the universe, he framed to be the guardian and
artificer of night and day, first and eldest of gods that are in the
interior of heaven. Vain would be the attempt to tell all the figures of
them circling as in dance, and their juxtapositions, and the return of
them in their revolutions upon themselves, and their approximations, and
to say which of these deities in their conjunctions meet, and which of
them are in opposition, and in what order they get behind and before one
another, and when they are severally eclipsed to our sight and again
reappear, sending terrors and intimations of the future to those who
cannot calculate their movements-to attempt to tell of all this without
a visible representation of the heavenly system would be labour in vain.
Enough on this head; and now let what we have said about the nature of
the created and visible gods have an end...
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